Who were the losers during the LOCKDOWNS? The SSPX knew what was "essential." They never closed their Chapels. They continued as normal while the Diocesan churches pad locked the churches for months. The SSPX took the government to court on behalf of the entire church and they WON. I didn't see any Diocesan priest, that includes the fssp, or bishop on Tucker Carlson. I did see Fr. Kevin Robinson- SSPX, a real winner!
This comes as no surprise to me. Modernists, synodalists, Bergoglio loyalists, and homoheretics rule the Vatican. Catholicism, as understood before Vatican II, is of no interest to them.
Best news of my lifetime! Viva SSPX! Viva Christo Rey! Any criticism of this decision will have to explain why it’s ok for the atheist CCP to appoint China’s bishops and Pope Francis and Pope Leo XIV then sign off on. Ironically, that action sets precedent for SSPX decision!
Just here to remind folks in the comments that the SSPX has never intended its bishops to have any sort of jurisdiction outside of supplied faculties to consecrate, ordain, and confirm. All of the bishops of the Society are auxiliary and possess no competitive geographical jurisdiction.
Lot of people launch the accusation that the SSPX is attempting to operate as a counter Church and compare them to Lutherans, Orthodox, etc but in reality they are a unique situation where their bishops have no authority and are merely there to supply the sacraments for their presbyteral and laity needs. Sure we can "get into it" about them having a "protestant" or "schismatic" mentality but on paper they don't want schism and don't want to set up a counter church. They see their actions moreso as filial resistance regardless of the canonical penalties.
Good! If the Vatican can recognize the illicit and invalid consecrations of Patriotic Front communists, then an illicit consecration of Catholic priest shouldn’t be a big problem.
How many more years will it take for the Society to admit that the Sedevacantists are right? When will the SSPX leadership finally say that even Prevost is NOT the pope and never has been? The Society is now committing an act of schism by moving ahead with more episcopal consecrations without a papal mandate from the man they say is most definitely the pope. Their position is logically absurd.
Heretics, schismatics, and apostates are not members of the Catholic Church. Because the SSPX teaches the laity the heresy of Recognize and Resist, that makes them schismatics to call a heretic the pope when the Church vehemently taught otherwise prior to Vatican II. The Sedevantist SSPX priests whom Lefebvre expelled from the Society in 1970 were correct in their theological arguments which were all based on prior pronouncements by pre-Vatican II popes and Church Councils. What we have today is an antichurch led by antipopes. Prove me wrong with actual doctrine and dogma. Otherwise, go do some research and learn the true Faith.
I know this is off topic, but such a great point. I wish I had thought of it, just heard the tape played on Relevant Radio.
Truth can’t contradict Truth. A square can never be a circle.
From the audio tape;
IF Jesus Christ was Full Divinity/Full Humanity at Conception by the Holy Spirit in Mary’s Womb, we can not turn around for convenience and say an unborn human in the womb is just a clump of cells that can be aborted.
The comparison with what the Chinese communist government is doing is rather unfortunate. The Pope cannot excommunicate any of its members: they are outside His jurisdiction because none of them is baptized.
I believe you're confusing ordination with nomination. Peking has no power to ordain Bishops. Secular authorities have no power to administer sacraments.
Nope. Never said anything about Beijing nominating bishops. Who do you think is actually performing the illicit ordinations endorsed by the CCP? Is it not Bishops who are friendly to the CCP? Those bishops are under the jurisdiction of the Pope. For which they incur latae setentiae excomminications under canon law. Same as what happened with Lefebvre's ordinations in 1988.
I have no problem with that: it's explicit Canon Law, to begin with. So, it seems that the Fraternity Bishops don't mind being compared to the Chinese communist bishops. "Les beaux esprits se recontrent..."
Any “Excommunication” will have no legitimate authority whatsoever. If I received such a decree—I would have it placed in a beautiful antique frame with exquisite matting and paper surrounding the writ of “ Excommunication” and display it prominently like a Medal of Honor 🏅Award Citation.
I live in Austin Tx. We have wonderful Catholic Priests come from Ohio to Texas once a month to offer Mass and hear confessions etc. (Sedevacantists, sgg.org)
If SSPX would offer Mass Not in union with vicar of satan, and use a Mass not promulgated by heretic and freemason, I could go more often.
Also SSPX stubbornness to side with Leo over Catholics prevents me from doing 9 First Fridays. I could drive down to SSPX once a month for that. Thanks Lefebvre for this controlled opposition against Catholics. (please read Lefebvre 9 by the great Father Cekada.rip.
I can't wait for Sspx to go away for good. Same with Vatican II Church
Not Baptized PRC CCP members high command is a supposition on your part. Additionally, Pope Prevost could absolutely have issued ordered written Condemnatory and Excoriating Statements from The Holy See.
China is a communist dictatorship which can withhold any religion. The Church is limited in its reach inside China and travel by Bishops is very restricted. Is that the loophole SSPX should use. No. SSPX is excommunicating itself.
More to the point: SSPX guy gets vaguely worded response from Vatican and decides to consecrate new bishops, rather than following up with Vatican? “What we got here is a failure to communicate.” But so did King Henry VIII and Pius V. If the Vatican allows this to occur and yet does not fully restore the Latin Mass to our regular parishes, they will be committing ecclesiastical suicide.
Using some Latin in a Novus Ordo Mass is not the Vetus Ordo, the Tridentine Mass, which was codified in 1570 and used until the late 1960s. Priests have to re-learn this Mass. There are bishops who do a Pontifical High Mass in the Novus Ordo, however, and it is beautiful.
May God continue to bless the SSPX: we are in a state of grave Crisis, much worse than after the Assisi debacle of the 80s.
We’ll agree to blame auto correct.
Thank you.
Classical Latin maybe our bulwark against’ the machine’
Omnes cum Petro ad Jesus per Mariam
Please forgive an old Latin teacher: "ad Jesum." Auto-correct is insistent on "Jesus" however!
Who were the losers during the LOCKDOWNS? The SSPX knew what was "essential." They never closed their Chapels. They continued as normal while the Diocesan churches pad locked the churches for months. The SSPX took the government to court on behalf of the entire church and they WON. I didn't see any Diocesan priest, that includes the fssp, or bishop on Tucker Carlson. I did see Fr. Kevin Robinson- SSPX, a real winner!
Evil hates the SSPX.
STOP smoking weed and go to confession.
It's inappropriate for me, an adult, to continue conversing with you, a child. Bye.
I stand by the SSPX. The supreme law of the church is the salvation of souls and sadly Rome has left the faith.
Rome has lost the faith. Then why seek direction and approval from apostate Rome? Why?
This comes as no surprise to me. Modernists, synodalists, Bergoglio loyalists, and homoheretics rule the Vatican. Catholicism, as understood before Vatican II, is of no interest to them.
Best news of my lifetime! Viva SSPX! Viva Christo Rey! Any criticism of this decision will have to explain why it’s ok for the atheist CCP to appoint China’s bishops and Pope Francis and Pope Leo XIV then sign off on. Ironically, that action sets precedent for SSPX decision!
RE silence of Pope Francis and Cdl. Parolin after CCP episcopal appointments, two wrongs don't make a right.
Just here to remind folks in the comments that the SSPX has never intended its bishops to have any sort of jurisdiction outside of supplied faculties to consecrate, ordain, and confirm. All of the bishops of the Society are auxiliary and possess no competitive geographical jurisdiction.
But this observation is apropos of what?
Lot of people launch the accusation that the SSPX is attempting to operate as a counter Church and compare them to Lutherans, Orthodox, etc but in reality they are a unique situation where their bishops have no authority and are merely there to supply the sacraments for their presbyteral and laity needs. Sure we can "get into it" about them having a "protestant" or "schismatic" mentality but on paper they don't want schism and don't want to set up a counter church. They see their actions moreso as filial resistance regardless of the canonical penalties.
Lutherans etc don't prop up Vatican II Church as Sspx does.
Sspx clergy and laity will have much to answer for at their final judgement.
The Catholic church has told us in centuries past how to handle this nightmare situ. Sspx has gone against it. Now, great apostasy.
Some ignorant folks in Sspx trapped in an organization that is in schism and heresy, an ark of damnation
Good! If the Vatican can recognize the illicit and invalid consecrations of Patriotic Front communists, then an illicit consecration of Catholic priest shouldn’t be a big problem.
China comms can now finance the SSPX diocese.
What diocese? A wild and defamatory accusation without any information. Go to confession!
How many more years will it take for the Society to admit that the Sedevacantists are right? When will the SSPX leadership finally say that even Prevost is NOT the pope and never has been? The Society is now committing an act of schism by moving ahead with more episcopal consecrations without a papal mandate from the man they say is most definitely the pope. Their position is logically absurd.
Heretics, schismatics, and apostates are not members of the Catholic Church. Because the SSPX teaches the laity the heresy of Recognize and Resist, that makes them schismatics to call a heretic the pope when the Church vehemently taught otherwise prior to Vatican II. The Sedevantist SSPX priests whom Lefebvre expelled from the Society in 1970 were correct in their theological arguments which were all based on prior pronouncements by pre-Vatican II popes and Church Councils. What we have today is an antichurch led by antipopes. Prove me wrong with actual doctrine and dogma. Otherwise, go do some research and learn the true Faith.
Unfortunately, you are correct. It’s something of a dilemma of their own making.
Ok Al, ill admit it. But...I'm A sede
Bishops have never been consecrated in Defiance of Pope (you call him, sspx does. I don't). Find pre 1958 teaching that allows ghis?
Sspx makes up their own heresies to justify their very un Catholic actions.
Sedes say since 1958 we have had no pope. No new teachings, cannonizations, encyclicals etc.
It's wild to be sure . but we're right
Thank you so much for keeping us updated. You are truly doing God's work.
I know this is off topic, but such a great point. I wish I had thought of it, just heard the tape played on Relevant Radio.
Truth can’t contradict Truth. A square can never be a circle.
From the audio tape;
IF Jesus Christ was Full Divinity/Full Humanity at Conception by the Holy Spirit in Mary’s Womb, we can not turn around for convenience and say an unborn human in the womb is just a clump of cells that can be aborted.
God Bless and Protect you all,
🙏✝️🙏
The comparison with what the Chinese communist government is doing is rather unfortunate. The Pope cannot excommunicate any of its members: they are outside His jurisdiction because none of them is baptized.
I thought that all ordained priests had to be baptized first?
They have. Not the members of the Peking government.
It takes CCP-aligned bishops to consecrate bishops or priests. So there is jurisdiction for them.
There's a vast difference between ordaining a Bishop and appointing a Bishop. I don't think it helps the Fraternity's cause using the comparison.
Nope. Only comparing ordinations in both cases. CCP-aligned bishops ordaining bishops without papal approval is also illicit.
I believe you're confusing ordination with nomination. Peking has no power to ordain Bishops. Secular authorities have no power to administer sacraments.
Nope. Never said anything about Beijing nominating bishops. Who do you think is actually performing the illicit ordinations endorsed by the CCP? Is it not Bishops who are friendly to the CCP? Those bishops are under the jurisdiction of the Pope. For which they incur latae setentiae excomminications under canon law. Same as what happened with Lefebvre's ordinations in 1988.
I have no problem with that: it's explicit Canon Law, to begin with. So, it seems that the Fraternity Bishops don't mind being compared to the Chinese communist bishops. "Les beaux esprits se recontrent..."
Any “Excommunication” will have no legitimate authority whatsoever. If I received such a decree—I would have it placed in a beautiful antique frame with exquisite matting and paper surrounding the writ of “ Excommunication” and display it prominently like a Medal of Honor 🏅Award Citation.
I live in Austin Tx. We have wonderful Catholic Priests come from Ohio to Texas once a month to offer Mass and hear confessions etc. (Sedevacantists, sgg.org)
If SSPX would offer Mass Not in union with vicar of satan, and use a Mass not promulgated by heretic and freemason, I could go more often.
Also SSPX stubbornness to side with Leo over Catholics prevents me from doing 9 First Fridays. I could drive down to SSPX once a month for that. Thanks Lefebvre for this controlled opposition against Catholics. (please read Lefebvre 9 by the great Father Cekada.rip.
I can't wait for Sspx to go away for good. Same with Vatican II Church
So Freaking Beautiful 😍. This has made my entire year 2026!!!! LET THE SCHISM BEGIN!!!
Not Baptized PRC CCP members high command is a supposition on your part. Additionally, Pope Prevost could absolutely have issued ordered written Condemnatory and Excoriating Statements from The Holy See.
China is a communist dictatorship which can withhold any religion. The Church is limited in its reach inside China and travel by Bishops is very restricted. Is that the loophole SSPX should use. No. SSPX is excommunicating itself.
More to the point: SSPX guy gets vaguely worded response from Vatican and decides to consecrate new bishops, rather than following up with Vatican? “What we got here is a failure to communicate.” But so did King Henry VIII and Pius V. If the Vatican allows this to occur and yet does not fully restore the Latin Mass to our regular parishes, they will be committing ecclesiastical suicide.
The present Pope Leo is already using Latin in his Mass. So....
Using some Latin in a Novus Ordo Mass is not the Vetus Ordo, the Tridentine Mass, which was codified in 1570 and used until the late 1960s. Priests have to re-learn this Mass. There are bishops who do a Pontifical High Mass in the Novus Ordo, however, and it is beautiful.