Concerned??? Thats rich. There’s no care for us. They allow the persecution of all TLM laity. We would rather die with Jesus on the cross than submit to their demonic agenda. Did not the Pharisee call Jesus a devil and infidel? Let them call us whatever they like. As For me and my house, we will worship Jesus in tradition. In addition, WE LOVE OUR PRIESTS! We will not abandon them!!!!!!!!!
Cardinal Fernandez and his ilk flatter themselves. I honestly couldn’t care less what his sort think, and while I cannot speak for the priests of the SSPX, I’d venture to guess that him and his sort are absolutely the last persons on this planet any SSPX priest would look to for “pastoral care”.
So the guy who wrote “Heal Me With Your Mouth” and pornographic depictions of Our Lord and His Holy Mother, declares schism regarding SSPX Bishop anointings speaks for Our Lord whom he mocked? The beat goes on with these heretics. No one in the Church is obligated to obey sin.
Try the Roman Catechism (Council of Trent) p292 section on “Enemies And Those Outside the Church”, or “Cantate Domino” by Pope Eugene IV from the Council of Florence.
I don’t read the modernist catechism, but it probably says it there, too.
Seems you've completely missed the point. Neither of these articles deal with priests accused of falsehood, or their supposed false teaching placing them outside of the church.
Tucho, Don’t waste your time working on “pastoral arrangements”! Nobody in the SSPX is going to leave because they ARE the Catholic Church. Your Synodsl church is a homosexual heresy factory on the slippery slope down the hill to oblivion.
If the SSPX are excommunicated (Laetae Sententiae) and don't resolve it, they will end up like the Old Catholics and will be ordaining women in 100yrs. Ex Exclesiam Nulla Salus
The excommunication laetae sententiae for ordaining bishops against papal approval, was only instituted in the 1950s. And it was done so with the express intent of Chinese communists ordaining communist bishops, not for someone like Lefebvre. The mind of the legislator matters in law. That was a gross misuse of power.
Doesn't matter how it happened, they ended up outside the Church and stayed out, eventually losing track of themselves. The PNCC also hold non Catholic doctrine, the same will happen to the SSPX id they stay outside the Church.
If the SSPX are excommunicated it won't be invalid. They are also so sure they are correct that they'll never try to come back into the Church and will become another of a long line of schismatic churches that will drift off into weird ideologies.
Clergy LEAVING the SSPX? If the heretics in the Vatican move to declare the SSPX in schism their worries should be clergy abandoning it and JOINING with the SSPX. This may be the final self-inflicting axe hack the Vatican bestows upon itself.
It was the Council of Trent Church under whose auspices as the ruling Church that the Bishops of the world were invited to Rome for Vatican II; and the original premises under which it would be established. Therefore everyone who officially participated in Vatican II went there as part of the Council of Trent Church. The Rhine Bishops arrived as representing the Council of Trent Church. After highjacking the Council they changed it from a Dogmatic Council to a Pastoral Council and it was billed to all the participants, not as a Dogmatic Council but as a Pastoral Council. So that when the Council was over, everything that had originally marked it as a Dogmatic Council, meaning that it had to have its origin and roots deeply embedded and organically grown from previous councils and paperwork to back that up, WAS GONE!
THAT HAD ALL BEEN DESTROYED WITH ITS SCHEMAS. THEREFORE IT NO LONGER HAD ITS PEDIGREE FROM PREVIOUS COUNCILS TO SHOW ITS AUTHENTICITY AND CATHOLICITY. UP POPPED THE VATICAN II COUNCIL WITH NO ROOTS PRIOR TO VATICAN II! IN OTHER WORDS, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE KIND OF SLEIGHT OF HAND THAT FERNANDEZ AND LEO ARE PULLING NOW SHOWED THAT COUNCIL'S PREFERRED WAY OF DEALING WITH THOSE WHO, LIKE CHRIST, ARE THOSE IN THE CHURCH WHO ARE THE MEEK AND HUMBLE OF HEART AS CHRIST IS.
On the trip home from the Vatican II Council, those who had been in union in, with, and through Christ, became separated.
THAT IS WHEN THE SCHISM ACTUALLY OCCURRED AND THE SSPX, FROM THE BEGINNING IF THEIR EXISTENCE HAS BEEN TRYING FOR GOD'S AND CATHOLICS' SAKES TO PUT THAT HUMPTY DUMPTY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. IN FACT, EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF CATHOLIC LIFE HAS BEEN MORPHED TO THE POINT WHERE ITS ORIGIN IS UNRECOGNIZABLE! .... EXCEPT.... THE TRUE TRADITIONALISTS WHO KEEP THE 2000 YEAR OLD MASS, AND THE SACRAMENTS AND TEACHINGS JUST AS CHRIST, THROUGH HIS APOSTLES, GAVE TO US AS OUR PEDIGREE!
If you want to visualize this, visualize the twelve Apostles and how they were treated by the Scribes and Pharisees and the lock that they thought that they had on all the Jews through their faith.
It really is about time that the group of Bishops and Cardinals, etc, that highjacked Vatican II ... actually highjacked the Council of Trent Church (that NEVER WAS ABROGATED)... comes out of the closet just like their rainbow, LGBTQ, Sankt Gallen Mafia, Pastor Jimmy and Lavender Mafia brethren have done.... It is not the SSPX and their brethren who are incompatible with Catholicism. In fact at this time, True Catholicism wouldn't exit without them!
100% correct Oct 13, 1962 note the Fatima date and the Cardinal who out of order upended the scholastic schemas for the original documents...Cardinal Achilles...note the HEEL....
Agreed! Among those who put the original schemas together was Archbishop Lefebvre. When the Rhine Bishops threw out the traditional schemas prepared by Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre and others, the traditional Bishops lost any voice in the deliberations.
We can see the proof of this in THE RHINE FLOWS INTO THE TIBER, A HISTORY OF VATICAN II, by Fr. Ralph Wiltgen, a Vatican II eye and ear witness. In fact the traditionalist group under Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre were often denied permission to even speak ... even to the point of turning off the microphone when one was speaking.
In hindsight, this can easily be seen as a predecessor to the tactics now being used by Leo XIV and the Sankt Gallen Mafia; which is the tactic used against Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the night of His trial by the Pharisees and Sadducees.
I dare say, it seems that today Divine Providence has given Rome enough rope to hang itself and another "salutary jolt". (See fsspx news interview with Fr. Pagliarani: "Who is Tearing the Tunic of Christ?")
More than ever the circumstances today illustrate Apocalypse 16 verses 13~16:
(13) "And I saw from the mouth of the dragon, and from the mouth of the beast, and from the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs" (Leo XIV, Fernandez, Pastor Jimmy?).
(14) "For they are the spirits devils working signs, and they go forth unto the kings of the whole earth to gather them to battle against the great day of the Almighty God.
(15) "Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
(16) "And he shall gather them together into a place, which in Hebrew is called Armagedon."
(DRV- Armagedon: Hill of robbers)
April 29, Octave Day for the Solemnity of St. Joseph
INTROIT: "The Lord is our helper and protector: In Him our heart shall rejoice, and in His Holy Name we have trusted, Alleluia, Alleluia. Ps. Give ear, O Thou rulest Israel: Thou that leadest Joseph like a sheep. "
It’s not possible for a demon-worshipping (pachamama) heretic like Robert Prevost to be the holy father. Otherwise, Our Lord was lying to St Peter when he said the gates of hell would never prevail over The Church. There won’t be any excommunications of the SSPX priests because there is no authority to do that.
I'm Ordinariate myself. I have Catholic friends across the spectrum. I cannot imagine any of my SSPX friends leaving the SSPX after the ordinations. They are to a man and woman FAR more serious about their faith than any other Catholics I know; they are seem far better informed about their flavor of faith (meaning no disrespect) than the rest of us. I find it odd that so many other diversions from mainline NO Catholicism are tolerated and even praised yet SSPX and trads alone are threatened (according to this guy - and where does he get his information?) with excommunication. IF this is true and IF it happens it won't make the SSPX look bad to me - it'll just confirm my impression that they are willing to give up everything for what they believe is the correct way of worshipping. I greatly admire that and I support their loyalty even if I am not inclined to join them at mass on Sunday.
The Vatican is supposedly making preparations to 'welcome' those CATHOLIC FAITHFUL who wish to sever their connections with the Society once schism is declared. This could be a further indication that the crew of the pirate ship 'Synodal Catholic Church' have completely taken leave of their senses, such as they ever were. How is it even remotely conceivable that a significant number of the faithful who are involved with the SSPX will migrate to the utter disaster that is the Conciliar Church now it has reached its ultimate expression in 'Synodality'? The Catholic faithful of Japan heroically kept the Faith alive in secret for three centuries with no priests and no sacraments, all the while knowing, as they surely did that discovery would mean torture and death. In more recent times, the same zeal for Jesus Christ and the Church He founded as the Ark of Salvation for all humanity was manifested throughout the former Soviet Union. It is still happening in China, North Korea and even to some extent in many countries under the heel of Islamofascism. The very suggestion that faithful Traditionalist Catholics will simply run up the white flag, abandon the true Barque of Peter and readily board the doomed pirate ship Synodality is, to my mind, patently absurd.
The Vatican in 2026: representatives of heresy fêted; the SSPX crushed.
These words of Jesus came to mind:
But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of scandals. For it must needs be that scandals come: but nevertheless woe to that man by whom the scandal cometh.
Scandalize: That is, shall put a stumblingblock in their way, and cause them to fall into sin.
"Priories answer directly to the district house and are home, on average, to about three priests. These priests, under the direction of a prior, devote themselves to providing for the spiritual needs of local Catholics, especially the faithful attending SSPX chapels.
In this list you will find all our priories as well as all the chapels and missions served by Society priests. Select any of the locations listed below to obtain detailed information about traditional Catholic life available near you. " https://sspx.org/en/list-sspx-chapels
Supplied jurisdiction only applies in very specific cases—for individual acts in common error or positive doubt. It doesn’t create a standing mission, and it doesn’t establish a structure.
That’s straight from the Church’s own principles: jurisdiction is received from a lawful superior, not generated by necessity or need.
So the question still stands:
who supplied their mission in the first place?
Because without a mission from the Roman Pontiff—and we don’t have one today—there’s nothing for “supply” to operate on. It simply can’t replace the very source it depends on.
“Soul’s salvation is the highest law” is true—but it doesn’t override the constitution Christ established. Otherwise men would know better than Christ how things ought to be.
Kay, the “highest law” doesn’t override jurisdiction—it assumes it. The Church has never taught that the salvation of souls allows someone to act without being sent, but that those who are *lawfully sent* must use their authority for that end.
Otherwise, the principle becomes self-authorizing—anyone could claim “souls are at stake” and create their own mission.
And that’s the real issue: where does the Church teach that necessity generates jurisdiction or apostolic mission, rather than requiring it to already be there?
Concerned??? Thats rich. There’s no care for us. They allow the persecution of all TLM laity. We would rather die with Jesus on the cross than submit to their demonic agenda. Did not the Pharisee call Jesus a devil and infidel? Let them call us whatever they like. As For me and my house, we will worship Jesus in tradition. In addition, WE LOVE OUR PRIESTS! We will not abandon them!!!!!!!!!
Amen.
Cardinal Fernandez and his ilk flatter themselves. I honestly couldn’t care less what his sort think, and while I cannot speak for the priests of the SSPX, I’d venture to guess that him and his sort are absolutely the last persons on this planet any SSPX priest would look to for “pastoral care”.
Amen! 🙏 Mater Dolorosa Ora pro nobis!
So very happy to read this, you brought a tear to my eye. God bless you.
I can't imagine many clergy leaving.
Zero
So the guy who wrote “Heal Me With Your Mouth” and pornographic depictions of Our Lord and His Holy Mother, declares schism regarding SSPX Bishop anointings speaks for Our Lord whom he mocked? The beat goes on with these heretics. No one in the Church is obligated to obey sin.
Heretics aren’t in the Church
Unfortunately, most Catholics still believe 'Touchyourself' Hernandez and multiple church hierarchy are part of the church and go along with the lies.
No disagreement there Gregory. They do however believe they are.
What does that matter?
It doesn't matter. I am simply stating what THEY believe.
Would it kill you to read St. Francis De Sales on this topic
Would it kill you to read the catechism?
Which article
lol, incredible
Try the Roman Catechism (Council of Trent) p292 section on “Enemies And Those Outside the Church”, or “Cantate Domino” by Pope Eugene IV from the Council of Florence.
I don’t read the modernist catechism, but it probably says it there, too.
Seems you've completely missed the point. Neither of these articles deal with priests accused of falsehood, or their supposed false teaching placing them outside of the church.
I'm sorry I could only like this one time.
Tucho, Don’t waste your time working on “pastoral arrangements”! Nobody in the SSPX is going to leave because they ARE the Catholic Church. Your Synodsl church is a homosexual heresy factory on the slippery slope down the hill to oblivion.
The SSPX is the lifeboat.
Amen
If the SSPX are the Catholic Church, who is your Pope?
Pressure is mounting , but to put pressure you need strength and i am doubting the Vatican has some left … SSPX is the future
If the SSPX are excommunicated (Laetae Sententiae) and don't resolve it, they will end up like the Old Catholics and will be ordaining women in 100yrs. Ex Exclesiam Nulla Salus
Old Catholics rejected a dogma.
Name a doctrine the SSPX reject.
The excommunication laetae sententiae for ordaining bishops against papal approval, was only instituted in the 1950s. And it was done so with the express intent of Chinese communists ordaining communist bishops, not for someone like Lefebvre. The mind of the legislator matters in law. That was a gross misuse of power.
Doesn't matter how it happened, they ended up outside the Church and stayed out, eventually losing track of themselves. The PNCC also hold non Catholic doctrine, the same will happen to the SSPX id they stay outside the Church.
It does matter how it happened. An invalid excommunication is invalid.
Whether they stay in their limbo or not, time will tell
If the SSPX are excommunicated it won't be invalid. They are also so sure they are correct that they'll never try to come back into the Church and will become another of a long line of schismatic churches that will drift off into weird ideologies.
Dream
😂
Clergy LEAVING the SSPX? If the heretics in the Vatican move to declare the SSPX in schism their worries should be clergy abandoning it and JOINING with the SSPX. This may be the final self-inflicting axe hack the Vatican bestows upon itself.
Keep drinking the kool-aid 😂
God bless the bishops of the SSPX for their strong stance against the errors in the novelties of the post-conciliar church.
Pride comes before the fall
The real schism is in Rome with jackasses like Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernández.
That comparison insults jackasses!
ABSOLUTELY!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
And, the excommunications won’t hold because of the hypocrisy of the Pervert Fernandez.
It was the Council of Trent Church under whose auspices as the ruling Church that the Bishops of the world were invited to Rome for Vatican II; and the original premises under which it would be established. Therefore everyone who officially participated in Vatican II went there as part of the Council of Trent Church. The Rhine Bishops arrived as representing the Council of Trent Church. After highjacking the Council they changed it from a Dogmatic Council to a Pastoral Council and it was billed to all the participants, not as a Dogmatic Council but as a Pastoral Council. So that when the Council was over, everything that had originally marked it as a Dogmatic Council, meaning that it had to have its origin and roots deeply embedded and organically grown from previous councils and paperwork to back that up, WAS GONE!
THAT HAD ALL BEEN DESTROYED WITH ITS SCHEMAS. THEREFORE IT NO LONGER HAD ITS PEDIGREE FROM PREVIOUS COUNCILS TO SHOW ITS AUTHENTICITY AND CATHOLICITY. UP POPPED THE VATICAN II COUNCIL WITH NO ROOTS PRIOR TO VATICAN II! IN OTHER WORDS, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE KIND OF SLEIGHT OF HAND THAT FERNANDEZ AND LEO ARE PULLING NOW SHOWED THAT COUNCIL'S PREFERRED WAY OF DEALING WITH THOSE WHO, LIKE CHRIST, ARE THOSE IN THE CHURCH WHO ARE THE MEEK AND HUMBLE OF HEART AS CHRIST IS.
On the trip home from the Vatican II Council, those who had been in union in, with, and through Christ, became separated.
THAT IS WHEN THE SCHISM ACTUALLY OCCURRED AND THE SSPX, FROM THE BEGINNING IF THEIR EXISTENCE HAS BEEN TRYING FOR GOD'S AND CATHOLICS' SAKES TO PUT THAT HUMPTY DUMPTY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN. IN FACT, EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF CATHOLIC LIFE HAS BEEN MORPHED TO THE POINT WHERE ITS ORIGIN IS UNRECOGNIZABLE! .... EXCEPT.... THE TRUE TRADITIONALISTS WHO KEEP THE 2000 YEAR OLD MASS, AND THE SACRAMENTS AND TEACHINGS JUST AS CHRIST, THROUGH HIS APOSTLES, GAVE TO US AS OUR PEDIGREE!
If you want to visualize this, visualize the twelve Apostles and how they were treated by the Scribes and Pharisees and the lock that they thought that they had on all the Jews through their faith.
It really is about time that the group of Bishops and Cardinals, etc, that highjacked Vatican II ... actually highjacked the Council of Trent Church (that NEVER WAS ABROGATED)... comes out of the closet just like their rainbow, LGBTQ, Sankt Gallen Mafia, Pastor Jimmy and Lavender Mafia brethren have done.... It is not the SSPX and their brethren who are incompatible with Catholicism. In fact at this time, True Catholicism wouldn't exit without them!
The fakes and frauds are in Rome. Not in Écône!
100% correct Oct 13, 1962 note the Fatima date and the Cardinal who out of order upended the scholastic schemas for the original documents...Cardinal Achilles...note the HEEL....
Agreed! Among those who put the original schemas together was Archbishop Lefebvre. When the Rhine Bishops threw out the traditional schemas prepared by Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre and others, the traditional Bishops lost any voice in the deliberations.
We can see the proof of this in THE RHINE FLOWS INTO THE TIBER, A HISTORY OF VATICAN II, by Fr. Ralph Wiltgen, a Vatican II eye and ear witness. In fact the traditionalist group under Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre were often denied permission to even speak ... even to the point of turning off the microphone when one was speaking.
In hindsight, this can easily be seen as a predecessor to the tactics now being used by Leo XIV and the Sankt Gallen Mafia; which is the tactic used against Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the night of His trial by the Pharisees and Sadducees.
I dare say, it seems that today Divine Providence has given Rome enough rope to hang itself and another "salutary jolt". (See fsspx news interview with Fr. Pagliarani: "Who is Tearing the Tunic of Christ?")
More than ever the circumstances today illustrate Apocalypse 16 verses 13~16:
(13) "And I saw from the mouth of the dragon, and from the mouth of the beast, and from the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs" (Leo XIV, Fernandez, Pastor Jimmy?).
(14) "For they are the spirits devils working signs, and they go forth unto the kings of the whole earth to gather them to battle against the great day of the Almighty God.
(15) "Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
(16) "And he shall gather them together into a place, which in Hebrew is called Armagedon."
(DRV- Armagedon: Hill of robbers)
April 29, Octave Day for the Solemnity of St. Joseph
INTROIT: "The Lord is our helper and protector: In Him our heart shall rejoice, and in His Holy Name we have trusted, Alleluia, Alleluia. Ps. Give ear, O Thou rulest Israel: Thou that leadest Joseph like a sheep. "
Oh, the irony of this character having the temerity to declare anyone in schism...
Any words for the Germans, Tucho? Have something to say to Marko Rupnik? Surely something in the pot for James Martin SJ and Jeannine Gramick SL?
Maybe this devotee of Our Lady has some new thoughts on how exactly we should regard the Mother of God.
Whose the boss?
Personnel is policy.
It’s not possible for a demon-worshipping (pachamama) heretic like Robert Prevost to be the holy father. Otherwise, Our Lord was lying to St Peter when he said the gates of hell would never prevail over The Church. There won’t be any excommunications of the SSPX priests because there is no authority to do that.
I'm Ordinariate myself. I have Catholic friends across the spectrum. I cannot imagine any of my SSPX friends leaving the SSPX after the ordinations. They are to a man and woman FAR more serious about their faith than any other Catholics I know; they are seem far better informed about their flavor of faith (meaning no disrespect) than the rest of us. I find it odd that so many other diversions from mainline NO Catholicism are tolerated and even praised yet SSPX and trads alone are threatened (according to this guy - and where does he get his information?) with excommunication. IF this is true and IF it happens it won't make the SSPX look bad to me - it'll just confirm my impression that they are willing to give up everything for what they believe is the correct way of worshipping. I greatly admire that and I support their loyalty even if I am not inclined to join them at mass on Sunday.
The Vatican is supposedly making preparations to 'welcome' those CATHOLIC FAITHFUL who wish to sever their connections with the Society once schism is declared. This could be a further indication that the crew of the pirate ship 'Synodal Catholic Church' have completely taken leave of their senses, such as they ever were. How is it even remotely conceivable that a significant number of the faithful who are involved with the SSPX will migrate to the utter disaster that is the Conciliar Church now it has reached its ultimate expression in 'Synodality'? The Catholic faithful of Japan heroically kept the Faith alive in secret for three centuries with no priests and no sacraments, all the while knowing, as they surely did that discovery would mean torture and death. In more recent times, the same zeal for Jesus Christ and the Church He founded as the Ark of Salvation for all humanity was manifested throughout the former Soviet Union. It is still happening in China, North Korea and even to some extent in many countries under the heel of Islamofascism. The very suggestion that faithful Traditionalist Catholics will simply run up the white flag, abandon the true Barque of Peter and readily board the doomed pirate ship Synodality is, to my mind, patently absurd.
The Vatican in 2026: representatives of heresy fêted; the SSPX crushed.
These words of Jesus came to mind:
But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe to the world because of scandals. For it must needs be that scandals come: but nevertheless woe to that man by whom the scandal cometh.
Scandalize: That is, shall put a stumblingblock in their way, and cause them to fall into sin.
---- List of SSPX Chapels ----
"Priories answer directly to the district house and are home, on average, to about three priests. These priests, under the direction of a prior, devote themselves to providing for the spiritual needs of local Catholics, especially the faithful attending SSPX chapels.
In this list you will find all our priories as well as all the chapels and missions served by Society priests. Select any of the locations listed below to obtain detailed information about traditional Catholic life available near you. " https://sspx.org/en/list-sspx-chapels
Simple question: do any of them have jurisdiction—a mission that can actually be shown to come from the Roman Pontiff?
They have supplied jurisdiction, the salvation of souls being the highest law of the Church.
Supplied jurisdiction only applies in very specific cases—for individual acts in common error or positive doubt. It doesn’t create a standing mission, and it doesn’t establish a structure.
That’s straight from the Church’s own principles: jurisdiction is received from a lawful superior, not generated by necessity or need.
So the question still stands:
who supplied their mission in the first place?
Because without a mission from the Roman Pontiff—and we don’t have one today—there’s nothing for “supply” to operate on. It simply can’t replace the very source it depends on.
“Soul’s salvation is the highest law” is true—but it doesn’t override the constitution Christ established. Otherwise men would know better than Christ how things ought to be.
By definition, “highest law” overrides “jurisdiction”. The Pharisees also favored “law” over souls.
Kay, the “highest law” doesn’t override jurisdiction—it assumes it. The Church has never taught that the salvation of souls allows someone to act without being sent, but that those who are *lawfully sent* must use their authority for that end.
Otherwise, the principle becomes self-authorizing—anyone could claim “souls are at stake” and create their own mission.
And that’s the real issue: where does the Church teach that necessity generates jurisdiction or apostolic mission, rather than requiring it to already be there?
It's in Canon law.
'pastoral care' from the ones causing them the stress