I can only imagine what nonsense will be thought up by a group of "men" who think capital punishment is "inadmissible," sodomite "couples" can be blessed, and the Latin Mass should be abolished. The only war they will determine to be "just" is their ongoing war against believing Catholics and Western Civilization in general.
Three minutes each is just enough time to rubber stamp what has already been prepared. Relatively trivial matters
cannot be addressed adequately never mind profound issues like Just War and the Synodal way. Sheen warned that the Church would become a brotherhood of man without a fatherhood of God.
Incredible. With an impending schism with the SSPX, and all the fallout from the deeply unjust and bigoted Traditionis Custodes driving faithful from their parishes, Rome decides to quibble over Just War Theory and ignore the liturgy wars? Our Church is ruled by unserious men.
This consistory is shaping up to be a mixed bag. As is the conventional wisdom on the Prevost papacy up to this point. Much is good, while other aspects are objectively unedifying. The third day’s intercession on the continuing synod on synodality will formally continue a problematic program. One many consider, such as Cardinal Mueller, as being purpose built to lead to heterodox doctrinal outcomes. (And is arguably heretical) Speaking of, the other bitter fruit is to ask the Cardinals to double down on and to formally adopt as a body that Just War theory is outdated. It’s not. Never was. Isn’t now. The doctrine’s principles are perfectly capable of enobling modern man’s decision making ad bellum, in bello. Even with modern armaments. The debate over when war is just is hugely important but a Curia alive with the spirit of doctrinal changes are justified simply by using the incantation “outdated” makes a complex debate susceptible to simplistic outcomes. (Practical pacifism). A key concern is that a debate with this Francis set of Cardinal’s is apt to be an opening of a Pandora’s box. Cooler heads will argue in the consistory that Just War doctrine is timeless and deeper reflection and moral philosophical argumentation is required, then simply, “Never again war, Never again”. I’m concerned the naive Utopianism exhibited in MH and by Just War restrictionist will argue morally mature countries disarm, open their borders, institute confiscatory progressive taxation, support the UN, encourage far left organizations to “make a mess”, and tell those rigorous traditionalist to get off their knees, and standup like everyone else, because the line moves faster for goodness sake. On the other hand, studying MH’s opening and closing chapters, and how to achieve the common good, is a worthy topic and goal.
I don’t understand how the church is constantly talking about how we must foster greater dialogue and solidarity, and then the bishops continuously ignore the voices and concerns of the Catholic laity.
When they stop kicking the liturgy can down the road and actually address it, because it a) affects all Catholics due to our Mass obligations and b) unlike war and AI it's something the Vatican actually has the power to address beyond blowing hot air, I might actually care about these bishops' boondoggle get-togethers.
Yes, we need to pray for the Cardinals that they take a hard look at this encyclical and distance themselves from it. Not embrace or justify the tag applied to long-held magisterial teaching, that it is “outdated“. It’s simply absurd that the Holy Father is proposing this.
God has been warning Leo, the Cardinals, Catholics and all of Italy since the conclave of 2025 about the invalid election with natural disasters, to no avail. But now he is punishing those who accept the "blessings" of an Antipope.
I can only imagine what nonsense will be thought up by a group of "men" who think capital punishment is "inadmissible," sodomite "couples" can be blessed, and the Latin Mass should be abolished. The only war they will determine to be "just" is their ongoing war against believing Catholics and Western Civilization in general.
Three minutes each is just enough time to rubber stamp what has already been prepared. Relatively trivial matters
cannot be addressed adequately never mind profound issues like Just War and the Synodal way. Sheen warned that the Church would become a brotherhood of man without a fatherhood of God.
Incredible. With an impending schism with the SSPX, and all the fallout from the deeply unjust and bigoted Traditionis Custodes driving faithful from their parishes, Rome decides to quibble over Just War Theory and ignore the liturgy wars? Our Church is ruled by unserious men.
Perhaps they can talk about how to get Jimmy lai out of prison?
This consistory is shaping up to be a mixed bag. As is the conventional wisdom on the Prevost papacy up to this point. Much is good, while other aspects are objectively unedifying. The third day’s intercession on the continuing synod on synodality will formally continue a problematic program. One many consider, such as Cardinal Mueller, as being purpose built to lead to heterodox doctrinal outcomes. (And is arguably heretical) Speaking of, the other bitter fruit is to ask the Cardinals to double down on and to formally adopt as a body that Just War theory is outdated. It’s not. Never was. Isn’t now. The doctrine’s principles are perfectly capable of enobling modern man’s decision making ad bellum, in bello. Even with modern armaments. The debate over when war is just is hugely important but a Curia alive with the spirit of doctrinal changes are justified simply by using the incantation “outdated” makes a complex debate susceptible to simplistic outcomes. (Practical pacifism). A key concern is that a debate with this Francis set of Cardinal’s is apt to be an opening of a Pandora’s box. Cooler heads will argue in the consistory that Just War doctrine is timeless and deeper reflection and moral philosophical argumentation is required, then simply, “Never again war, Never again”. I’m concerned the naive Utopianism exhibited in MH and by Just War restrictionist will argue morally mature countries disarm, open their borders, institute confiscatory progressive taxation, support the UN, encourage far left organizations to “make a mess”, and tell those rigorous traditionalist to get off their knees, and standup like everyone else, because the line moves faster for goodness sake. On the other hand, studying MH’s opening and closing chapters, and how to achieve the common good, is a worthy topic and goal.
I don’t understand how the church is constantly talking about how we must foster greater dialogue and solidarity, and then the bishops continuously ignore the voices and concerns of the Catholic laity.
Maybe they could debate whether grass is green, it would be just as futile.
When they stop kicking the liturgy can down the road and actually address it, because it a) affects all Catholics due to our Mass obligations and b) unlike war and AI it's something the Vatican actually has the power to address beyond blowing hot air, I might actually care about these bishops' boondoggle get-togethers.
Yes, we need to pray for the Cardinals that they take a hard look at this encyclical and distance themselves from it. Not embrace or justify the tag applied to long-held magisterial teaching, that it is “outdated“. It’s simply absurd that the Holy Father is proposing this.
More bloviating and hot air....all while the Church is being dismantled. These quislings will face a harsh judgement,,,,pray for these fools. Pax
Nothing about liturgy once more?!
God has been warning Leo, the Cardinals, Catholics and all of Italy since the conclave of 2025 about the invalid election with natural disasters, to no avail. But now he is punishing those who accept the "blessings" of an Antipope.
https://johnofrochester.substack.com/p/i-shall-curse-your-blessings-malachi?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=5yglq7
Translation: Let’s find new ways to attack Trump.
This letter reads as if it was constructed by a poorly programmed AI chatbot.
I can imagine that they will bring up homosexuality/ sodomy.