Bravo, Diane Montagne, for an excellent interview with Bishop Schneider. You've hit it out of the park again! The depth and substance, deep knowledge of Bishop Schneider about the history of the Roman Catholic liturgy is very impressive AND an articulate rebuttal and lesson to Cardinal Roche that he best do his homework when he attempts to lecture other cardinals. It is evident and dismaying how Francis elevated and chose incompetent high officials of his curia, yes men and confederates who have caused much division and confusion. Cardinal Parolin, Fernandez, Roche come to mind. History will not be kind to Pope Francis. WOW! Bishop Schneider quotes liberally from Archimandrite Boniface Luykx's writings. I had the privilege and honor of meeting him and attending Masses and conferences given by Abbot Boniface when he was the founding Abbot of the Holy Transfiguration Byzantine Rite monastery (Mt. Tabor) located in Ukiah, northern California. (1990s) He went to his reward in 2004. Watching and listening to Abbot Boniface was like being in the presence of an apostle or early Father of the Church. He looked like one too.:) His monograph on Vatican II as a peritus and contributing author of Sacrosanctum Concilium is available on Amazon. "A Wider View of Vatican II. Memories and Analysis of a Council Consultor". https://angelicopress.com/products/a-wider-view-of-vatican-ii?variant=51929093374270
Well, we're stuck with Leo for awhile; perhaps a long while. We can curse the darkness or light a candle that the Holy Spirit will penetrate his soul... bestow on him the virtues he lacks. I will do my part and dedicate my weekly Eucharistic adoration hour to him and include him in my daily rosary intentions.
Whilst Bishop Schneider outlines a reply to Cardinal Roche's disingenuous document and points to the 1965 Mass - the young and many older Catholics are straining between 1962 and pre 1955. The 1965 Mass is still revolutionary even moderate modernist to some simple laymen like myself - vernacular is already horizontalising.
Basing principles on Vatican II documents is also tenuous since many of us have adopted sceptical critical vision of cause and effect e.g. deals with communists prior to Vatican II and disposing quite literally with the prepatory Council documents which were to deal with communism etc. After all, a Council historically addresses critical doctrinal/pastoral problems. The presence of Bugnini around 1955 doesn't help the legitimate concerns of the "Faithful". I could list more problems but let the obvious new form of communism evident throughout the world show why Vatican II should have protected the Faithful and preserved Sacred Tradition. Only the Heaven sent Consecration of Russia (should have been by 1960!) will restore the arrival of the Ark between the pillars of the fifth Marian dogma and supernatural reverence of the Eucharist which the Sacred Liturgy inspires and protects.
Again and again, thank you, Diane, for making this important and excellent interview available, and above all for the excellence of your journalism—your faithfulness to the truth.
How do you go from a universal tradition of saying the Canon silently for 1500 years.. where you use all of the authority of the church to discipline anyone who said it out loud.
How do you go from that to a bureaucracy from the Vatican producing a letter saying you can now break our long held tradition and say it out loud. Even more, if you do it the traditional way, you are now disciplined.
This at least needs to be explained right? They all signed that document saying they would keep Latin. Then went home and forbade anyone from using it. It does beg the question: why.
Powerful interview that brings crucial historical clarity to the liturgy debate, especially the distinction between the 1965 Ordo Missae (which Vatican II fathers actually celebrated) versus the 1967 Synod's rejection of Bugnini's Novus Ordo. The quotes from Archimandrite Luykx carry enormous weight since he was actualy on the Consilium and saw the process from inside. I've been studing this period of liturgical history and this kind of firsthand testimony from periti is what the debate desperately needs.
The TLM puts fear into their hearts. Those who make up the TLM community ,
,both laity and clergy, represent a fearsome defense against the change they so want, deliberately chipping away at the very heart of Tradition and practices. No more kneeling before Our Lord , Our Savior, Our Creator in the Holy Eucharist. ??? This from a bishop??
I thought what Roach did tobthe TLM community in Tyler Tx was despicable. As soon as they booted strickland he reached down and destroyed that community. As soon as they had no shepard to protect them, Roach booted them. Does he not know the whole country sees this? What malice this man must have! Does he think Jesus will say “well done my good and faithful servant” when he is judged?
The TLM isnt going away. They can persecute it, and that will slow its return, but it is coming back
This is an articulate, magnificent article. Thank you so deeply for its content. May Our Lord grant us true unity, true reverence in liturgy , and true scholarship to be brought forth for the next synodal meeting this coming June.
One wonders where this hatred of the TLM comes from. In these very troubled times in the Church and in the world we need Church leaders who radiate love of Christ and His Church. Not bitter men driven by personal progresive agendas.
I appreciate very much the courage and straightforwardness of Bishop Schneider. At the same time he always remains respectful.
Too bad the wide-spread practice of Witch Trials and public hangings were foolishly ended and false history created that gave them a bad reputation! If they were still a threat then the 1958 Modernist Collage of Cardinals, Grandmothers, Professionals, ..,1973 SCOTUS would never have forced insanity acceptance into the world and wouldn't have [or are] Crying to God to be hanged, if they don't repent.
Mirror of Generated audio overview of the following article on how intellectually and emotionally we have been crippled and mutilated - self-tormented away from Truth, Justice, Order, Sanity, Prudence, ..
What else was happening as Satan became enthroned in the Vatican in 1958?
.. Satan's minions really started with footholds into our Majority-White Christian-based Western cultures - not only the pass mass-murder of our men and fathers from French Rev, Civil War, WWI, .. ..When "Grandmother's Wisdom" started Sickening and spreading Poison.
So, in order to argue that MR1970 was a rupture, +Schneider quotes from BXVI, who never publicly celebrated the TLM as pope? On the whole, Benedict was ardently pro-continuity regarding the council, so I’m not sure why +Schneider thinks this quotation is any better than what +Roche did.
Bravo, Diane Montagne, for an excellent interview with Bishop Schneider. You've hit it out of the park again! The depth and substance, deep knowledge of Bishop Schneider about the history of the Roman Catholic liturgy is very impressive AND an articulate rebuttal and lesson to Cardinal Roche that he best do his homework when he attempts to lecture other cardinals. It is evident and dismaying how Francis elevated and chose incompetent high officials of his curia, yes men and confederates who have caused much division and confusion. Cardinal Parolin, Fernandez, Roche come to mind. History will not be kind to Pope Francis. WOW! Bishop Schneider quotes liberally from Archimandrite Boniface Luykx's writings. I had the privilege and honor of meeting him and attending Masses and conferences given by Abbot Boniface when he was the founding Abbot of the Holy Transfiguration Byzantine Rite monastery (Mt. Tabor) located in Ukiah, northern California. (1990s) He went to his reward in 2004. Watching and listening to Abbot Boniface was like being in the presence of an apostle or early Father of the Church. He looked like one too.:) His monograph on Vatican II as a peritus and contributing author of Sacrosanctum Concilium is available on Amazon. "A Wider View of Vatican II. Memories and Analysis of a Council Consultor". https://angelicopress.com/products/a-wider-view-of-vatican-ii?variant=51929093374270
Yes, it is dismaying that Francis chose such men as Parolin, Roche, and Fernandez. But Pope Leo has kept them all!!!!
True. Hopefully Pope Leo will appoint exceptional men of God to work closely with him in thr Vatican. We pray.🙏🙏🙏
Like this one? https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-pope-leo-appoints-pro-lgbt-archbishop-as-secretary-for-the-dicastery-for-clergy/
Well, we're stuck with Leo for awhile; perhaps a long while. We can curse the darkness or light a candle that the Holy Spirit will penetrate his soul... bestow on him the virtues he lacks. I will do my part and dedicate my weekly Eucharistic adoration hour to him and include him in my daily rosary intentions.
Well done. We must work to maintain, inform, and explain Tradition, but prayer is always the first requirement.
Thanks for the citation. I had heard of the reference but lost sight of it.
On Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Wider-View-Vatican-II-Consultor/dp/B0FG8WR85B/ref=sr_1_1?crid=H4J5Y8DUJODX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.4fh6jUtsIeJg6l-H0fmQiA.RGp4_h6k8VmBB5DRgJP-nFcYH54CFpjEv1DBD2uH21c&dib_tag=se&keywords=book+wider+view+of+vatican+ii+by+archimandrite+boniface+luykx&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1768933932&sprefix=%2Caps%2C1101&sr=8-1
Thanks! Just ordered!
Whilst Bishop Schneider outlines a reply to Cardinal Roche's disingenuous document and points to the 1965 Mass - the young and many older Catholics are straining between 1962 and pre 1955. The 1965 Mass is still revolutionary even moderate modernist to some simple laymen like myself - vernacular is already horizontalising.
Basing principles on Vatican II documents is also tenuous since many of us have adopted sceptical critical vision of cause and effect e.g. deals with communists prior to Vatican II and disposing quite literally with the prepatory Council documents which were to deal with communism etc. After all, a Council historically addresses critical doctrinal/pastoral problems. The presence of Bugnini around 1955 doesn't help the legitimate concerns of the "Faithful". I could list more problems but let the obvious new form of communism evident throughout the world show why Vatican II should have protected the Faithful and preserved Sacred Tradition. Only the Heaven sent Consecration of Russia (should have been by 1960!) will restore the arrival of the Ark between the pillars of the fifth Marian dogma and supernatural reverence of the Eucharist which the Sacred Liturgy inspires and protects.
Again and again, thank you, Diane, for making this important and excellent interview available, and above all for the excellence of your journalism—your faithfulness to the truth.
Liturgy wars! The previous Athanasius prevailed over arian heresy. Will this Athanasius prevail over bugnini/bergoglio heresy?
How do you go from a universal tradition of saying the Canon silently for 1500 years.. where you use all of the authority of the church to discipline anyone who said it out loud.
How do you go from that to a bureaucracy from the Vatican producing a letter saying you can now break our long held tradition and say it out loud. Even more, if you do it the traditional way, you are now disciplined.
This at least needs to be explained right? They all signed that document saying they would keep Latin. Then went home and forbade anyone from using it. It does beg the question: why.
Thanks for the article. Loved it.
Powerful interview that brings crucial historical clarity to the liturgy debate, especially the distinction between the 1965 Ordo Missae (which Vatican II fathers actually celebrated) versus the 1967 Synod's rejection of Bugnini's Novus Ordo. The quotes from Archimandrite Luykx carry enormous weight since he was actualy on the Consilium and saw the process from inside. I've been studing this period of liturgical history and this kind of firsthand testimony from periti is what the debate desperately needs.
The TLM puts fear into their hearts. Those who make up the TLM community ,
,both laity and clergy, represent a fearsome defense against the change they so want, deliberately chipping away at the very heart of Tradition and practices. No more kneeling before Our Lord , Our Savior, Our Creator in the Holy Eucharist. ??? This from a bishop??
Excellent interview!
May God bless and keep you and Bishop Schneider. Thank you for this!
I thought what Roach did tobthe TLM community in Tyler Tx was despicable. As soon as they booted strickland he reached down and destroyed that community. As soon as they had no shepard to protect them, Roach booted them. Does he not know the whole country sees this? What malice this man must have! Does he think Jesus will say “well done my good and faithful servant” when he is judged?
The TLM isnt going away. They can persecute it, and that will slow its return, but it is coming back
This is an articulate, magnificent article. Thank you so deeply for its content. May Our Lord grant us true unity, true reverence in liturgy , and true scholarship to be brought forth for the next synodal meeting this coming June.
One wonders where this hatred of the TLM comes from. In these very troubled times in the Church and in the world we need Church leaders who radiate love of Christ and His Church. Not bitter men driven by personal progresive agendas.
I appreciate very much the courage and straightforwardness of Bishop Schneider. At the same time he always remains respectful.
Dear Brothers in Christ,
May this comment find us all ever closer to God, and His Truth.
[Warning - this might enrage the broken soul-crippled victims of generations of Evil Modernists in the Church. And likely others - you for example.]
What happened as Satan became enthroned in the Vatican in 1958?
".. Catholic Apologetics: On the Threefold Unions, Crisis of the Modern World" https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2230
https://archive.is/E30mN
YouTube mirror of generated overview of this Traditional Catholic Apologetic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as782bEFwBo
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Too bad the wide-spread practice of Witch Trials and public hangings were foolishly ended and false history created that gave them a bad reputation! If they were still a threat then the 1958 Modernist Collage of Cardinals, Grandmothers, Professionals, ..,1973 SCOTUS would never have forced insanity acceptance into the world and wouldn't have [or are] Crying to God to be hanged, if they don't repent.
Mirror of Generated audio overview of the following article on how intellectually and emotionally we have been crippled and mutilated - self-tormented away from Truth, Justice, Order, Sanity, Prudence, ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI42veC7UiU
"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2227:, 27th September 2025, The Ongoing Worldwide Rape of Mind and Soul to fully realize Homo Umbrans" https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2227 https://archive.is/i6i5W
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What else was happening as Satan became enthroned in the Vatican in 1958?
.. Satan's minions really started with footholds into our Majority-White Christian-based Western cultures - not only the pass mass-murder of our men and fathers from French Rev, Civil War, WWI, .. ..When "Grandmother's Wisdom" started Sickening and spreading Poison.
Satan's 5th Column at all our families' roots.
Here is the YouTube mirror of audio overview of the following article addressing this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCUeA7MxxtI
".. Question|Perspective: Poisonous Gate-Keeper Grandmother with Hyper-Power, Catholic Apologetics" https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2232
https://archive.is/Xkbcn
"Make public Witch-trials and hangings popular again!" (for the unrepenting)
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So, what's needed?
We need an Abrahamic World-Wide Justice System .. and a Pope-King-Man (of course!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NkpLdRpzrQ
"Multiverse Journal - Index Number 2228:, 8th October 2025, By the Will of God, Our First possible 'Treatise Concerning ..' From Offices of Papal-King" https://stevenwork.substack.com/p/multiverse-journal-index-number-2228
https://archive.is/aEcrq
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What do you think is needed - if they refuse to repent?
God Bless., Steve
PS. "Make public Witch-trials and hangings popular again!" (for the unrepenting)
So, in order to argue that MR1970 was a rupture, +Schneider quotes from BXVI, who never publicly celebrated the TLM as pope? On the whole, Benedict was ardently pro-continuity regarding the council, so I’m not sure why +Schneider thinks this quotation is any better than what +Roche did.